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Odd sizes when projecting in Select Size view

There are a number of factors that can cause you to not get the sizes that you expect when displaying images and layouts in Select Size View.

  1. Your screen must be correctly calibrated.
  2. Only Print Paper Sizes that are marked to be used in Select Size view will be used.
  3. When showing Images, the setting of Crop to Print Size (in View Menu) will make a difference.
  4. When showing Layouts, sizing is done differently for Composite Layouts versus Traditional Matted Layouts.

The following sections cover each of the above points in more detail.

Screen Calibration

For more on this subject see this article. If you have done this and the sizes are still not as you expected then try the test at the bottom of this article under "Still not correct?"

Print Paper Size settings

When you open the Print Paper Sizes window (under the Orders menu), you should see a small "ruler" icon next to each of the print paper sizes that you wish to use in Select Size view.  There are two ruler icons for each size - one is for Working with Images and the other is for Working with Layouts.  Make sure that the ruler icon is showing next to the sizes that you wish to show.

(In the older version ProSelect v3, there was just one ruler for each size and this sets whether the size would be used when Working with Images AND Working with Layouts.)

"Crop to Print Size" Setting when showing Images

By default, ProSelect has the Crop to Print Size (Select Size View only) checked under the View menu. With this setting, it will automatically center crop each image to the currently selected print paper size when you are projecting in Select Size view.

For example, if even if you have cropped an image into a square shape in ProSelect, when you change to Select Size view it will appear to be cropped smaller when you select a non-square print paper size.

You can add any paper sizes you like to the list of displayed sizes using Print Paper Sizes (under the Orders Menu) including different croppings for the same size such as 8x10 and 8x12 and ProSelect will show those sizes at those shapes when you select them.

If you have some non-standard cropped images that you wish to display "as cropped" when in Select Size view, then de-select Crop to Print Paper Sizes and the automatic cropping will be turned off.  With this off, the image will be sized to fit within the selected print paper size. eg if you have cropped an image in a 1:2 shape (such as 10x20) then it will display as 3.5x7, 5x10, 7x14  (with print paper sizes of 5x7, 8x10 and 11x14).

(For those using older version ProSelect v3, the behaviour is slightly different. The image will be sized to the narrow side of the print paper size. eg if you have cropped an image in a 1:2 shape (such as 10x20) then it will display as 5x10, 8x16, 11x22  (with print paper sizes of 5x7, 8x10 and 11x14)).

Composite Layouts versus Traditional Matted Layouts

When Working with Layouts, the way layouts are sized depends on whether you are viewing the layout as a Composite Layout (all images and the matt will be printed in one piece of paper) or a Traditional Matted Layout (each image will be printed separately for mounting in a matt and frame).

Composite Layouts

These are scaled so that the overall layout size fits to a Print Paper size. ProSelect adjusts the size so that the overall layout will fit within the selected print paper size.  (ProSelect 3 fits to the narrow side unless the layouts aspect ratio is greater than 1:15 in which case it fits to the long side.)

For example, if your layouts overall size is in a 1:2 shape (eg 10x20) then it will display the overall sizes as 3.5x7, 5x10, 7x14  (with print paper sizes of 5x7, 8x10 and 11x14). Any openings in the layout will be shown proportionately smaller as determined the design of the template you are using. 

Traditional Matted Layouts

These are scaled so that the main opening (the #1 opening in the Template Editor) in the layout is sized to fit to a Print Paper size. ProSelect adjusts everything so that the main opening will fit within the selected print paper size.  (ProSelect 3 fits to the narrow side unless the layouts aspect ratio is greater than 1:15 in which case it fits to the long side.)

For example, if you have a template design with a 12x12 overall size containing an 8x10 main opening then the following sizes will be shown:

Print Paper Size of 5x7:     Main opening size: 5x6.3  with an overall size of 7.5 x 7.5
Print Paper Size of 8x10:   Main opening size: 8x10  with an overall size of 12 x 12
Print Paper Size of 11x14: Main opening size: 11x13.8  with an overall size of 16.5 x 16.5

Note: The opening size is "cropped" to the shape of the opening in the template and the overall size is scaled in proportion to the template design.

In both of the above cases, if you have setup your print paper sizes with multiple sizes with the same width or length then the displayed size may be the same when you change between these sizes. For example, a square composite layout will display with an overall size of 8x8 for both 8x10 and 8x12 print paper sizes.  If you right-click (control-click on Macs) on the Larger Size or Smaller Size tool bar buttons you will get a popup menu which show the resulting sizes for each possible print paper size so you can directly select that size.

How do you know whether Layouts are being shown as Composite Sizes or Traditional Matted sizes?

Good question!

Each template and layout can be either a Composite Type or a Traditional Matted Type. If you view in Thumbnail view then you will notice that Composite Types have a dark green background and Traditional Matted Types have a dark red background.

You can change the type of a template in the Template Editor by checking or unchecking the Composite Type checkbox. Alternatively you can select one or more templates in Thumbnail view and use the Set Selected Templates Types to... (under the Templates Menu).

You can change the type of a layout by selecting one or more layouts in Thumbnail view and use the Set Selected Layout Types to... (under the Album Menu).

For more information on Template types and how templates are sized see the ProSelect Reference Manual (under the Help Menu in ProSelect).

(In older version ProSelect v3, this is controlled by a setting under the View menu. You can select either Show in Composite Sizes or Show in Traditional Matted Sizes.)

 

Still not correct? - try this test

1. Open Print Paper Sizes (under the Orders Menu).
2. Click the Add button in the top right corner
3. Enter a square size with a width and height of 16"  (or a size that you know will easily fit on your screen)
4. Make sure that you check the Prints and Layouts checkboxes so this size is available Select Size view.
5. Click the Save button and Close the window.
6. Make sure that you are in Working wth Images mode.
8. Make sure that Crop to Print Paper Sizes is checked under the View menu
7. Select an image and change to Select Size View
8. Right-click (or control-click for Mac users) on the Larger Print Size button (it looks like a grey square with a "+") and select the 16"x16" size from the popup menu. This should show your image sized and cropped to exactly 16"x16" on your screen.

Checking the results
- If the width and height of the displayed image (as measured on your screen) are NOT equal then your screen,TV or projector needs to have its Height and/or Width adjusted to make the image exactly square. (Note: If you have to adjust the width then you will need to calibrate your screen again.)

Note:  The width and height adjustment controls on a TV/Projector are usually only available when using the PC (VGA or DVI) or HDMI input connector on your TV.  Using an S-Video connection may not allow any adjustment.

- If the height and width are the same but the width is not 16" then your calibration is not correct and you should do this again.

 


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